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Re: Yahoo outage summary

  • From: jared mauch
  • Date: Mon Jul 09 11:22:45 2007

On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:47 AM, [email protected] wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 02:18:25 -0000, "Chris L. Morrow" said:

While S*BGP seem like they may offer additional protections and additional
knobs to be used for protecting 'us' from 'them', the very basics are
obviously not being done so added complexity is not going to really help
:( Or, perhaps its not that its not going to help its just not going to
get done because even prefix-lists are 'too hard', apparently.

"Wow, prefix-lists are *hard*" -- BGP Barbie..

You'd think that by now, we as an industry could do better than that.

I agree that we need something better but nobody has shown me a better system than prefix lists and irr that actually *works*.

The simple truth is that prefix lists ARE hard to manage. There are a lot of folks that have complex relationships or don't see why they should register their routes. Some people lack tools and automation to make it work or to manage their networks. It would be nice to see everyone filter routes, including those from even transit and large peers. I don't think we will be able to ignore this forever. I also do not see the status quo changing soon either.