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On Tue, Aug 06, 2002 at 03:56:32PM -0400, Daniel Senie wrote: > > At 02:50 PM 8/6/02, you wrote: > > >Phil, > > You would think, after hearing about 30 people with clue+++ > >talk, you may realize that this is a patently *bad* thing and should not > >be done. > > Actually, what the many people have said sounded a lot more like "it won't > help very much." > > > If your route's are being hijacked you can generally solve your > >problems in 2-5 phone calls...That's all it's *ever* taken me. > >1. Call their NOC. > > typical response: you're not our customer, go away. Typical response: You're not our customer, who are you? I'm Omachonu Ogali with XYZ Networks, and I'd like to speak to a network engineer regarding a routing problem. -- Ah ok, please hold. > >2. If not helpful call their upstream. > > typical response: you're not our customer, go away. See above. > >3. Call a couple of Tier 1's who are transit for their upstream, and > >have them filter it. > > response: who the hell are you? Cut the crap, when US/CKS was leaking Digex to UUnet, I called UUnet, and within 30 minutes the problem was resolved. Plus when I called, I wasn't representing any company or calling any magic numbers. > Until you get back to the people you buy transit from, or peer with, and > try to get them to take on your cause. When you can't get your own > upstreams to understand what you're talking about, you post to NANOG, and > the problem gets solved in short order. No, most of you post to NANOG about irrelevant drivel that brings the S/N ratio lower each year, or you post 3-4 hops out of a 12 hop traceroute, or you resort to NANOG instead of calling your upstream first, or you talk about implementing the most wacked out routing policy to exist on the planet. > This tends to be the sad reality. Yes, the above tends to be the sad reality. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Senie [email protected] > Amaranth Networks Inc. http://www.amaranth.com > -- Omachonu Ogali [email protected] http://www.informationwave.net
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