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On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Warren Kumari wrote: On Sep 21, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Pekka Savola wrote:On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, John A. Kilpatrick wrote: Our perceptions differ -- you seem to think that the having full, unfiltered BGP feed protects from these problems. That's not the case. E.g., in the TeliaSonera routing problem I sent on the m-l on Sep 6, all prefixes were received fine through TSIC, but certain traffic ended up being dropped for the duration of about 9 hours. Unless you made an administrative action on the router, some networks would have been blackholed for 9 hours regardless of the fact whether you used unfiltered BGP or filtered BGP. So, if you're uncomfortable with such major networks causing problems in your connectivity, you'll need the ops staff to look after the routing and change it if need be. Ergo, if you need the ops staff, you could just as easily as shutdown or depref of a badly behaving transit switch the default or change the other priorities. I guess the main point here is how prevalent "no reachability, no prefix" scenario is compared to "routing/forwarding broken, manual action required". My take is that the the former is rare with good upstreams and while the latter might not be as frequent as the former, you'll need to prepare for it in any case so the difference likely doesn't matter that much. -- Pekka Savola "You each name yourselves king, yet the Netcore Oy kingdom bleeds." Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
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