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And locking your car, taking the keys, setting the alarm or whatever doesn't guarantee someone won't load it into a soundproof truck. BUT IT HELPS! And having run an ISP for 13 years now I'm here to tell you what I say HELPS. I'm not just making this stuff up, I'm telling you what I know from experience. Spammers et al look for easy marks they don't have to compound their crimes with. As to CyberCafes, I don't know anything about those, never used one, never thought about it, surprised they'd be popular with spammers. -b On September 11, 2002 at 14:12 [email protected] (Brad Knowles) wrote: > At 2:37 PM -0400 2002/09/10, Barry Shein wrote: > > > A) Make a clear policy as part of the terms & conditions, including a > > significant clean-up fee + direct charges (e.g., if they ask you or > > prompt a legal question they can pay the legal fee for you to get it > > answered.) > > That's nice to have, but hard to enforce. That is, unless you > ask for a large up-front cash deposit. > > > B) KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU'RE GIVING ACCOUNTS TO so that (A) works. Get > > a credit card or verify the phone number and other info (e.g., call > > them back, insist on calling them back.) > > Do you know how many credit cards are out there? Do you know how > many of them are fake or stolen? You can't even get a decent charge > that you can reliably apply to them, because the bank at the other > end will refuse payment from a non-existent or closed account. > > > C) Use (B) to enforce (A). > > Doesn't work. See above. > > > The problem in 99% of the cases is either (B) or ISPs who just don't > > care at all. > > CyberCafe's can't use (B), even if it did work. That would > violate their basic premise. > > -- > Brad Knowles, <[email protected]> > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." > -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. > > GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E W+++(--) N+ !w--- > O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) > tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die | [email protected] | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 617-739-0202 | Login: 617-739-WRLD The World | Public Access Internet | Since 1989 *oo*
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