North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Certification or College degrees?
Thus spake "Vadim Antonov" <[email protected]> > Stephen - I bet I can do networks much much better than most cisco CCIEs, > even after years of doing network-unrelated work :) That's because I > understand _why_ the stuff is working, not only how to make cisco box to > jump through hoops. ... > > You don't. You devote your career to learning networking. IOS is a base > > skill which is necessary (today) to utilize that knowledge and, more > > importantly, get a job. > > Yawn. Are you serious? Sure, you need to have some idea of what things > are and how they work, but finding a magic incantation in IOS manual is > not something which only ceritified cisco "engineers" can do. Unless both > IOS and documentation deteriorated much much further than I think. Where did I say that? Read my statement again; I think you're in violent agreement with me. > > A person with lots of knowledge and no skills is a liberal arts major, not > > an engineer. > > One of the best network engineers is the world is a liberal arts major :) I find most of them make great fry cooks ;) > > Academic respect doesn't pay the bills. > > Sure, being a trained _technician_ pays bills. Just about. In my > experience, having a real education does much more. If you take a non-logical, non-visual, non-geeky technician and push him through a CS program, he'll emerge still a technician. Will a piece of paper make him a more valuable employee? Probably not. > > Degrees are, in essence, a certificate that you are capable of learning > > things by rote and regurgitating them later, possibly applying a small > > amount of thought (but not too much). > > Depends on where you got it. Try to get through MIT or Stanford by > learning thing by rote :) I think you'll find yourself with self-esteem > below the floor, and a ticket home after the very first exams. I do have great respect for MIT, Stanford, and a few others. However, only a tiny fraction of 1% of CS grads come from those programs. I'm basing my stance on the rest of the population. S
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