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[email protected] wrote: > > Er, begging to differ. Only when electrodes are implanted > in peoples brains and the activation circuits are accessable > via paging (or something similar) will you get the types of > response you think you want. Either that or if their is > a business relationship w/ your "SWAT" team, e.g. they are > paid to be a your beck/call on a 24/7/365 basis. Are you really saying that if I tell you that a dial-up user on your network hacked into my system at some precise time, from a precise IP address (so that you could probably tell easily which user did it), and did so in a fashion which suggested an automated "script kiddie" effort, I should only expect a response from you if I PAY for it ?!? This seems pretty close to the "protection" money that I hear people with POP's in Moscow have to pay :) (BTW, I said nothing about timeliness or 24x7 availability - a note a week or two later would have sufficed.) > > > > The key to an anti-hacker ISP association would be > > > a very special ip address / contact person lookup database. > > > ie: who/how to contact for the 'SWAT' response for a particular IP > > > address. > > > > > > --Mike-- > > > > Hello; > > > > When we have had attacks such as root exploits, we have notified the > > source (at least, > > the ISP hosting the immediate source) as to the date, time, IP address, etc. > > (In one case, the attack appeared to come from a dial-up address in Germany, > > so I thought we had them.) We have NEVER received a response. From > > conversations at meetings, etc., I understand that this is typical - almost > > universal - and that it would be naive to expect other ISPs to actually > > do anything > > about being a source for attacks. > > > > Maybe a start would be to a BCP for some level of minimal response if > > you source > > an attack, and a "web site of shame" listing those domains that source > > attacks and do nothing about it when notified. > > -- Regards Marshall Eubanks Multicast Technologies, Inc. 10301 Democracy Lane, Suite 201 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 Phone : 703-293-9624 Fax : 703-293-9609 e-mail : [email protected] http://www.on-the-i.com
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