North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Hi, we're from the government and we're here to help
hmm interesting perspective, I will keep this in mind.... Sean Donelan wrote: > On Fri, 10 March 2000, Patrick Greenwell wrote: > > I believe this to be such a common communication protocol and procedures > > for handling issues to be of great necessity and desireability. If 10% of > > the vast number of people that have expressed their opinions on these > > issues were each willing to put up a little money, we could solve this > > problem once and for all. > > I used to work for a company which spent several hundred thousand dollars > every year on memberships to various groups, and more money to send > people to various meetings. My question always is when somone proposes > forming yet another group, which groups should I drop my support so I > can join your new group? > > If all the existing groups are broken, CERT, CIX, CNRI, FIRST, IETF, IOPS, > NANOG, RIPE, etc, can any of them be fixed? Or is a new group the only > option. > > In reality money isn't the biggest issue. I was naive once, and created > a business plan for a new group. ISPs and VCs were willing to give me > lots of money. The real problems were time, people and information. > Companies are more than willing to join new groups, and add their logos > to the membership page. But too often their engineers are told they are > not allowed to contribute or acknowledge any issues or problems. All > they can do is say "Here" when roll is called. > > I can start setting up the infrastructure tommorrow, but until something > happens to permanently scare the heck out of the boards and stockholders, > any new group will just be a shell. -- Thank you; |--------------------------------------------| | Thinking is a learned process so is UNIX | |--------------------------------------------| Henry R. Linneweh
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