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Why'd you have to ask the tech in the first place whether to use a straight thru or crossover? Not like you're gonna smoke the hub using the one in your hand if you'd try it ... Somethings wrong on both ends if putting a 10BaseT cable between a hub and router requires a VP's signoff. Eric At 08:01 PM 8/24/99 -0400, Dean Robb wrote: > >At 14:03 8/21/99 -0400, Charles Sprickman wrote: >> >>On Sat, 21 Aug 1999 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Perhaps if we can get the "higher-ups" to stop hiring noc newbies based on >>> certs and begin hiring based on raw intelligence...then maybe we can get >>> the overall clue factor back to a reasonable level. >> >>That's true I think. Most of the people I ask questions of posess neither >>a CCIE nor a comp-sci degree. Some do, but not enough to convince me that >>real-world experience and contact with knowledgeable people isn't a valid >>"education". How many folks here that consider themselves a "leader" in >>net ops at their place of employ were formally educated? > >Here's a perfect example of the "Piece of paper means nothing" scenario: > >I was on a system deployment today for a national funeral home chain. >After working with their tech support guy to get the router configured the >way they wanted it, he told me I needed a crossover cable to connect it to >the hub. I disagreed and suggested we at least try to use the normal RJ-45 >I had in my hand. That got me kicked up one level to another tech who told >me that the previous tech "had a college degree and is our expert, so go >get a crossover cable". Again, I balked and wanted to at least try to >connect using the cable in my hands. That got me bumped up again several >times, eventually coming to the Vice President in charge of the deployment >who told me "we've got certified experts who say you need that cable so go >get it!". > >(Anyone see this coming?). I got the cable - and of course it didn't work. > The normal cable did (DUH!). > >So I had 3 "certified" "experts" and a "college degree" who told me that I >needed something that I didn't - and refused to even *try* it my way; and >were wrong. > > > > >"NSI and ICANN - on the next Springer!" > >Dean Robb >Owner, PC-EASY >(757) 495-EASY [3279] >On-site computer repairs, upgrades and consultations >Senior Reviewer, WWW.TheGamers.Net - an IEN affiliate. > ========================================================================== Eric Germann CCTec [email protected] Van Wert, OH 45891 http://www.cctec.com Ph: 419 968 2640 ICQ: 41927048 Fax: 419 968 2641 Network Design, Connectivity & System Integration Services A Microsoft Solution Provider
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