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On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Matthew Petach wrote: On 9/8/08, Gadi Evron <[email protected]> wrote:On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, InterCage - Russ wrote: Thank you Russ. That is a great step in the right direction dropping this one client. It is appreciated, although it's just one bad apple on a big tree. What you say in this email makes a lot of sense. Thanks for pointing that out. Not being a lawyer, I think this also makes sense legally (as far as the Britain-like systems go). As to this particular case, I'd be satisfied if I see even just all the fake DNS traffic stop heading their way, anyway. Gadi. The notion of "innocent until proven guilty" I think is a much better model for us to work with. If you find clear miscreants, and have data to back it up, then a call for cleaning up the miscreants is somewhat acceptable, though I worry that we may descend into a witch hunt if this is taken too far to the extreme. However, a call to "prove your innocence" is entirely uncalled for, and opens ISPs up to being caught on the horns of a very nasty dillemma; either to maintain their customer's privacy, and be labelled as an evil, nasty, non-cooperative provider that must therefore be guilty, by their very dint of failure to prove their innocence; or, reveal their law-abiding, legitimate client information, and and then quickly lose those clients when they realize their records are no longer considered private at that ISP.
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