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Re: Boeing's Connexion announcement

  • From: Patrick W. Gilmore
  • Date: Sun Oct 15 04:59:05 2006

On Oct 14, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Todd Underwood wrote:

I disagree.
i disagree with your disagreement.
You are welcome to your opinion.

Seat power is ubiquitous on some airlines (e.g. American), and
available in all but coach on others (e.g. Virgin, Luftansa).  It's
"all but coach"?  seriously?  hilarious.

"democracy is available to all but the majority"

"wealth is available for all but the middle class and poor"

come on.
In Virgin, BA, etc., there are frequently -four- classes on an international flight. You can get "premium economy" just by having status on some airlines, or buying a full-fare coach ticket on others (e.g. BA). It really ain't that hard, or expensive. Especially for biz travelers who can't always make plans a month in advance.

That said, yeah, I mostly fly coach.

seat power is not ubiquitous on american, either.  it's on every 3rd
seat or some nonense and there's no way to figure out whether you are
in such a seat.

i identified this early on as one of th emajor factors causing this
service to fail.
Interestingly, I fly over 50K miles per year on AA on average and have very, very rarely not had seat power. Guess I've been lucky.

BTW: Jet Blue, whom I love otherwise, says they will not install seat power. Something about the cabling for the TV. They were very nice about my request, but very firm about not having any plans for seat power any time in the future. I guess TVs make more money than laptops.

AC power is not required.  Bigger seats might be. :)
bigger seats may not be required.  ac power is.
This is where we disagree. My G4 PB gives me 4 hours of use with a new batter, and over 2 hours with a 3 year old battery. I hear the new Intel ones give 5+ hours. How much do you need? SJC <-> IAD is only 5/6 hours, and you can't use your laptop the whole time (take off, landing, snacks, toilet breaks, etc.).

However, that same 12" PB (not a large laptop by any definition) on Luftansa is close unusable in coach if the person in front of you leans back. I had to contort pretty horribly to use it. (Which I did, 'cause I -had- to send e-mail from the plane. :) Lack of seat power was not an issue, I just had two batteries. And this was BOS - > MUC, which ain't a short flight.

Using a 15" or larger laptop on that flight is essentially unthinkable. I could not have opened the laptop enough to see the screen. During meals, the flight attendants made everyone sit up, otherwise the people behind them wouldn't have been able to eat. Yes, it was that bad.

Summary: Bigger seats are required, seat power may not be. Maybe this is how they get you to upgrade so you can use seat power. :)

P.S. I used it for > 4 hours on Luftansa in coach, without seat
power.  And would happily pay $27.95, perhaps more, to use it again.
/me too.  the price is well-worth it.
At least we agree on something.