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Re: soBGP deployment

  • From: Edward Lewis
  • Date: Mon May 23 14:35:01 2005


At 14:00 -0400 5/23/05, Daniel Golding wrote:

My reply is mostly tongue-in-cheek. I think it's always healthy to explore alternatives.

Why not do something simple? The in-addr.arpa reverse delegation tree is
pretty accurate. We use it for lots of different things. Why not just give
IP address blocks a new RR (or use a TXT record) to identify ASN? This
solves the biggest problem we have right now, which is stealing of address
blocks. It requires little processor overhead, and only a few additional DNS
lookups. Its reasonably foolproof.
I'll ignore that you said "(or use a TXT record)". ;)

Without DNSSEC, what does this buy? "Secure" information on a non-secure channel.

If, by "stealing addresses" you mean that the RIR records are changed, then changing the name servers is trivial - changing to servers that have the hijacker's preferred data (or none!).

Why create reliance on more databases? The RIRs are iffy. We rely on DNS
right now. Why not keep relying on it? This solution doesn't solve all of
our problems, but it does help, its easy, and people will implement it.
Who populates the DNS (well, the .arpa domain)?  The RIRs do.

Ok, please start flaming now :)
Brave to make such a request on a Monday afternoon.
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