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Re: OpenTransit (france telecom) depeers cogent

  • From: Patrick W. Gilmore
  • Date: Fri Apr 15 17:41:44 2005 
On Apr 15, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
Paul Vixie wrote:
> in other words, sometimes it's better to take pain in a "lump sum"
> than on the "time payment plan." if that's what cogent's trying to
> do, they've got my support. if on the other hand cogent is, as
> accused here today, dumping transit at below cost, then may they rot
> in hell. (could i say that simpler?)

I'm not sure about the US price war, I just can say that I've seen an
offer of AS174 in Switzerland which is 38% of the price of AS1239 we currently pay (same CDR). I'm not sure if ths already justifies hell, but at least purgatory ;-)
Strange, I am REALLY HAPPY when someone offers me a comparable product for less money. If you prefer to pay more, well, I'm happy for you.

(And no flames about Cogent not being comparable. I've already posted here that their network runs just fine. Of course, now that they are no longer offering "full transit", we are re-considering how "good" their pricing is.)


Back on topic, I am unclear on why "you sell X for less than I do" is justification for rotting in hell. Whether X is below your cost is COMPLETELY immaterial. Whether it is below their cost is irrelevant to me, but it might be important to some countries / laws / whatever. If they are breaking a law, have someone investigate & charge them. If there is no law against it, deal with it. They should be going out of business RSN anyway.

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TTFN,
patrick