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On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 01:08:39PM -0500, Patrick W Gilmore wrote: > On Dec 13, 2004, at 6:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: > [my attribution clipped -jzp] > >>- this month, another knee was at 150k [Dec 4th] and similarly > >> garbled results came out. Again, no response. > >>...in this one year we've seen the shape of the climb return to the > >>curve characterized by two years 99-01. Going for e? I'm not quite > >>sure what the current point of the report is if no-one responds to > >>even it breaking. > > > >Knee? Shape? Curve? Are you reading the same CIDR report > >that I see here every Friday? The report that I see is > >basically a dump of raw data. Perhaps the author needs > >to remember the distinction between data and information > >and make the CIDR report into something that people > >*WANT* to read. This posting of yours contained far more > >information than any CIDR report. [snip] > > Also, as for the "knee" Joe mentioned, I think he is talking about the > fact the report went wonky. Look at the data presented in the last > CIDR report - it is nonsense, obviously in error. This is not the > "shape" of the "curve", it is the data itself. Correct on 'knee' but for crying out loud, follow the pointy clicky references to the website. Of course there isn't going to be a curve in email [you want ascii plots? how 1980s], but the email quite clearly points you the way to the site where there is some analysis of the raw data. For many of us, the mail is a reminder 'here's the current raw info, check the detailed stuff over here'. There is no secret cabal or hidden ionfo, the report email Joe, finding it a sad state of affairs that he must cut and paste "http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/plota?file=%2fvar%2fdata%2fbgp%2fas4637%2fbgp%2dactive%2etxt&descr=Active%20BGP%20entries%20%28FIB%29&ylabel=Active%20BGP%20entries%20%28FIB%29&with=step" into this message for people to actually look at the graph. PS "2001 bellovin bush griffin rexford" entered into google hits the specific reference quite nicely - sorry i didn't include the title. as michael pointed out the specific links migrate all the time, so i was purposefully avoiding 'where it can be found at this moment' [try http://www.research.att.com/~jrex/papers/filter.pdf] -- RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
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