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on Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 04:45:24AM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote: > > [email protected] (Sean Donelan) writes: > > > http://www.eff.org/wp/?f=SpamCollateralDamage.html > > excerpt: > > I. The Problem > > MoveOn.org is a politically progressive organization that engages > in online activism. For the most part, its work consists of sending > out action alerts to its members via email lists. Often, these > alerts will ask subscribers to send letters to their > representatives about time-sensitive issues, or provide details > about upcoming political events. Although people on the MoveOn.org > email lists have specifically requested to receive these alerts, > many large ISPs regularly block them because they assume bulk email > is spam. [...] > > i reject all mail from moveon.org here. not because i assume bulk e-mail > is spam, but because i still personally receive all mail sent to any address > at cix.net, and quite a few people who wish to subscribe from cox.net end > up typing cix.net by mistake. ("i" and "o" are adjacent in QWERTYland.) > i'm therefore in a position to prove that moveon.org does not verify the > ownership or permission status of new e-mail addresses before sending > political information. i tried complaining, but moveon.org's postmaster > function appeared to be understaffed or overworked or both. I couldn't agree more. We have several users here who signed up for the moveon.org mailings back when the group was a single-issue activism project (getting the US to "move on" and stop wasting its time trying to impeach Clinton). None of them expected to become permanent members of what soon became a shrill, extremely partisan, and spam-spewing group. To the best of my knowledge, no attempt to unsubscribe has been respected. That said, I've long since stopped listening (or contributing) to the EFF as I see their war on antispammers as counterproductive. John Gilmore runs a well-known open relay at toad.com, and for some reason thinks that free, anonymous speech is important enough to let spammers drown it out through sheer volume. I prefer having usable email, so I no longer support the EFF. -- join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/web_designer.html join us! hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/account_manager.html join us!
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