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Re: Packet anonymity is the problem?

  • From: Joe Maimon
  • Date: Sun Apr 11 14:49:44 2004 

Petri Helenius wrote:


Joe Provo wrote:
I have heard the 'assymetric cost/benefit' rationale for the

bad laziness (sloppiness, not the larry wall-esque 'good' laziness of automation) on and off the last few years. Similarly, I have heard about the tremendous cost of sloppiness and human error in terms of root-cause for networking badness for the past several years.


Maybe there should be more "neighborhood intelligent" worms which would target resources that are within the vicinity of the compromised host. SMTP, WWW, etc. services. That way the effects would be most devastating for the lazy.

Pete


That raises what some would call an interesting veiwpoint (not my own)

Since there will be a worm for X written by "bad" people, and the worse the worm, the faster the "lazy" administrators patch......

Therefore the "good" people should beat the bad people to the punch and write the worm first. Make it render the vulnerable system invulnerable or if neccessary crash it/disable the port etc..... so that the "lazy" administrators fix it quick without losing their hard drive contents or taking out the neighborhood.

Such "corrective" behavior as suggested by you might also be implemented in such a "proactive" worm.

How many fewer zombies would there be if this was happening?

Clearly the current model is not working.