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Re: [IP] VeriSign prepares to relaunch "Site Finder" -- calls

  • From: Stephen J. Wilcox
  • Date: Mon Feb 23 17:09:49 2004

Whackos.. ! Where..?! 

Can't see no pesky whackos, nope sir, all normal people here.

> Paul, you have no problem support the corrupt ICANN monopoly.
> The colonists and minutemen were called their day's name for 
> "whackos" as well. You have the right to speak without
> being shot for your opinion because those "whackos" fought
> and died to make it so. Just remember that the next time
> you fling that word around.
> ICANN is a threat to freedom on the internet. There is no
> technical reason why there cannot be 1,000's of TLDs
> out there, except that it foils someone's monopoly 
> stranglehold on one of the few chokepoints of the internet. 
> The biggest threat is from WIPO which is trying to
> control the namespace and use it as a fulcrum to 
> enforce their narrow intellectual property interests.
> WIPO has no place in the namespace and its UDRP
> is just a method for rich and powerful interests to
> steal domains from poor people, especially those in
> less-than-well-to-do countries. I will never stop 
> fighting against that kind of thing, nor will others 
> in this struggle. 
> There are many people who have been working against
> this unacceptable state of affairs for many years, myself
> included and I will not let you mis-characterize our
> struggle.
> John Palmer
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Vixie" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 12:22
> Subject: Re: [IP] VeriSign prepares to relaunch "Site Finder" -- calls
> > 
> > [email protected] (Randall Pigott) writes:
> > 
> > > I am curious what the operational impact would be to network operators
> > > if, instead of Verisign using SiteFinder over all com and net, Verisign
> > > or their technology partner for SiteFinder began coercing a large number
> > > of independent ISPs and network operators to install their form of DNS
> > > redirection at the ISP-level, until all or most of the end-users out
> > > there were getting redirected.
> > 
> > It would be no worse than NEW.NET or any other form of DNS pollution/piracy
> > (like the alternate root whackos), as long as it was clearly labelled.  As
> > an occasional operator of infrastructure, I wouldn't like the complaint load
> > I'd see if the customers of such ISP's thought that *I* was inserting the
> > garbage they were seeing.  So I guess my hope is, it'll be "opt-in" with an
> > explicitly held permission for every affected IP address (perhaps using some
> > kind of service discount or enhancement as the carrot.)
> > -- 
> > Paul Vixie
> > 
> >