North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Did Sean Gorman's maps show the cascading vulnerability in Ohio?
Hello Scott , On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Scott McGrath wrote: > A measured response is needed. Obviosly we do not want the > vulnerabilities disclosed to bored teenagers looking for "excitement". > We need controlled access to this data so that those of us who need the > data to fix vulnerabilities can gain access to it but access is denied to > people without a legitimate need for the data. And my statement would be , And who is that authority ? The government ? The Utilities ? The ... ? > The "Dig Safe" program might be a good model for controlling access to > Sean's work. This would not preclude further scholarship on Sean's work > but it would keep the data out of the hands of the 31337 crowd. Huh ?, Try this on for size , "Hello , I am joe's contracting service & I have a building permit(I do) and I need to dig at ..." If I remeber correctly the "Dig Safe" program will give me the info without so much as a check on the permit or my company name . But , Something (may) need to be put in place . I for one am not a great fan of any group of "X" that has a vested interest in keeping the information out of the public hands as being the ones to administer or setup or even give suggestions to a body who'd be involved in setting up such a commitee/org./... I'd really like to see a "Public" forum be used to take suggestions from the PUBLIC (ie: you & I & that neighbor you hate so well) for the guide lines as to who &/or when such info s/b released . Not the Gov. or the Util Alone . > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Sean Donelan wrote: > > So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project. > > The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the > > East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts this week? > > Would it be better to know about these vulnerabilities, and do something > > about them; or is it better to keep them secret until they fail in a > > catastrophic way? Twyl , JimL -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS | | Network Engineer | P.O. Box 854 | Give me Linux | | [email protected] | Coudersport PA 16915 | only on AXP | +------------------------------------------------------------------+
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