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Re: Carriers using CES in the wild?

  • From: Dave Temkin
  • Date: Fri Jul 25 09:23:26 2003

Actually I was moreso looking to see if any of the "major" carriers were
doing it on the sly, ie, selling it as point-to-point TDM but instead it
was CES


David Temkin

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jared Mauch wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 09:50:30PM -0400, Dave Temkin wrote:
> >
> > Is anyone aware of any carriers that are using CES as a transport method
> > as private line and aren't necessarily selling it as such?  (ie, I've
> > ordered a DS-3 from point A to point B, and instead of the carrier
> > dropping it as standard TDM it's CES through their network...)
> 	What you are speaking of is most likely what juniper
> calls CCC.  L2 transport over their network.  Not too dificult to set up
> but as usual the complications come in the realm of redundancy and
> network reconvergence.
> 	I'd pay close attention to the SLA offered, but it
> is probally similar to what is seen in a TDM network if they
> employ mpls fast reroute .. and if you're doing IP
> over this circuit, you will probally be less likely to notice any
> problems.
> 	- Jared