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Supporting White Hats (Was SPEWS)

  • From: measl
  • Date: Thu Jun 20 21:49:56 2002

As a person who actively works an abuse department...

We need to remember that while lots of folks will scream like banshees at the
reciept of a single email, very few (none that I know of personally) will
help a place *stay* "white hat" by voting with their wallets to support the
killing of spammers.

It's a business folks - if you kill a customer who is paying his bills every
month (and full DS3's are not cheap), you must make it up somewhere.  

When I kill a *small time* spammer (a T1 or a pair of T1s), I have to be able
to make a business case that the guy is costing more than he is bringing in,
and I need to do this for each and every kill.  

Where are the hordes who will support the ISP/NSP who makes these kills?  It
CANNOT be a one-way street (which it pretty much is today).  I work goddamn
hard keeping my corner crispy white, but the crispy whites are invisible when
it comes to sales time.  No sales means I can't justify what I do.  And if I
can't justify it, then SPEWS, or Selward, or God herself isn't going to make
any difference screaming that a pink contract is the wrong thing to do...

<asbestos underwear firmly in place>

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
[email protected]

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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