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I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but the fact of the matter is, if SPEWS behavior is abusive towards a network, that network does have a limited recourse: null-route SPEWS. Thus, the more providers they anger, the less network they can reach. Some users may complain, but if SPEWS is abusing your customer base, I think it's a valid response. It's a powerful threat, and incentive for SPEWs to play fair. On 6/20/2002 at 20:33:43 +0100, Chrisy Luke said: > > Steven J. Sobol wrote (on Jun 20): > > If the offending ISP does not respond, and you have exhausted all avenues > > available to you to get the ISP to get its customer to stop spamming - > > whether by TOS'ing the customer, education or whatever - then escalation > > may work if the collateral damage caused by escalation is enough to get > > the spammers' neighbors to complain to the ISP. > > Can't find the terrorists you're looking for so start killing bystanders > until someone submits? Sounds militia to me. > > The service providers are not the enemies. If you treat them like enemies > then enemies they will become. > > Perhaps we should move mail transfer to a peering model. You wanna send > email to my SMTP server? Where's the peering contract? BGP-equivalent for > SMTP anyone? > > -C > (tired of getting bounces for email I never sent!)
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