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On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 10:33:32PM -0600, Chance Whaley wrote: > > Oh phuleeese.... Stop drinking your own Kool-Aid(tm). To honestly > suggest that Foundry, or any other vendor for that matter, never does > 'anything less than perfect' is nothing less than idiotic. If Foundry > does things so 'perfect' why do they have a TAC? Why do they have bugs? > Why do they even need to release new software ever again? Obviously what > is out now will solve every possible issue - its 'perfect' right? The > only possible answer according to your logic, is to support customers > who are 'doing it wrong' and need to be educated. Personally I would say that Foundry does EVERYTHING less than perfect. Nearly everyone I'm aware of (including myself) who has had to misfortune to try and use their devices in a service provider environment and a layer 3 role has come away with a universal loathing of biblical proportions. I really can't stress this enough, it DOES NOT MATTER how many gigabits your box forwards. A router is ONLY as useful as the quality of its software and support, if you can't login to it or have working routing protocols, it's just a big paperweight. The only "wannabe cisco" company I have seen learn this lesson is Juniper, and I am firmly convinced this is the reason for their success in the core. Whenever I read a press release about Foundry in the core, I stop and take a moment to laugh uncontrollably. It has nothing to do with ISIS or MPLS, it has to do with making your existing functionality work correctly and behave in a sensible fashion. Nothing personal against Foundry, but the people in charge couldn't possibly "not get it" any more than they do now. -- Richard A Steenbergen <[email protected]> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras PGP Key ID: 0x138EA177 (67 29 D7 BC E8 18 3E DA B2 46 B3 D8 14 36 FE B6)
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