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David, At 06:09 PM 2/26/2002 -0800, David Conrad wrote: Aside from it being factually correct, with verifiable documentation (see below) that would stand up to courtroom scrutiny, the answer is that I'd never considered it. Tell you what, maybe you could be one of the featured characters of the "Buggy BIND" sketch. It will (no doubt), go down well with the hacker crowd and, at the same time, scare the bejeepers out of the Critical Infrastructure folk. Got any good BIND jokes that you can share with us (I already have v8.x and v9.x)?Is your revisionist history part of a stand-up routine? The first alt.root that posed any kind of challenge to the IANA root existed in 1996. Postel described that as a root fracture to me, to my face, and I'm not going to argue with Postel. It didn't do any damage as there were no conflicting TLDs (like there are now) and consequently no-one noticed. Vixie and Kashperuff had a delightfully jovial banter over it at the IETF, where Vixie coined the phrase "DNS pirate".The DNS root fragmented in 1996? The reality is that the root permanently fragmented because there was nowhere to put the IANA TLD applicants. Should there have been two roots back then? No. The IANA TLD applicants should have been allowed into the IANA root and then AlterNIC, son of AlterNIC, eDNS, ORSC, Name Space, New.net, et al, would not exist. This scenario of an open root and no alt.roots is described by the Green/White paper and that is partly due to the input provided by ORSC at the time (who unsuccessfully attempted to bid for the New Corp role which was sole-sourced to ICANN). Those are called facts. You can't vote on them. If you care to look in the link below you'll find the background documentation and, under the paragraph "Why The Concern?" is my dated prediction from 1996 that has now, unfortunately, come entirely true with Stuart Lynn's recent announcement: http://www.iahc.org/contrib/draft-iahc-higgs-tld-app-00.txt Are you getting it yet? That's documented. For a while it was even on IANA's web site until IOD sued IANA, and then poor Bill got shafted by the consequences and had to deny everything (remember I was there, and I don't believe he actually did anything wrong). This is exactly what I call a piece of revisionist history.Bill Manning was an "IANA-rep"? By the registry applicants, not by IANA. Not that it matters, they had to go somewhere to meet Bill Manning's criteria for operational readiness. When IANA said "do this", and we did, somehow we're now wrong? I don't think so:Alternic chosen as the test root? http://www.iiia.org/lists/newdom/current/2269.html The fact is, people like Randy Bush are now waking up and calling "BS" to what we have been calling "BS" for the last 6 years. You, on the other hand, are apparently still in heavy denial while your beloved ICANN is smashing itself on the iceberg. So I guess you must have a place on the lifeboat: http://www.superroot.net/titanic.html Chuckle. Thanks for the amusement. No, thank you. Rgds, Best Regards, Simon Higgs -- "Never underestimate the power of corruption to rewrite history." --Oliver Stone (San Jose Mercury News, July 16, 2000)
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