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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: The Gorgon's Knot. Was: Re: Verio Peering Question
| But, we all do, or we aren't talking BGP. The requirements here are not that | large. A Cisco 2651 with 128mb is a valid BGP speaker, these days. That's a | cheap router, indeed. And, router memory is dirt cheap. BGP is based on TCP and thus has the fun property that a big set of changes will pile up in front of a connection to a peer that is slow at processing inbound announcements & withdrawals. The slower you are at processing updates, the more likely you are to be out of sync with reality in such a way that you will begin to notice that you are forwarding some packets the wrong direction into loops or black holes. The slower you are, the greater the backlog you have to chug through to catch up, making you busier for longer periods, which in turn leads to greater backlogs. Slow down too much and the other side will help you out by resetting the session. We've seen this in the past - it's caused MASSIVE outages affecting nearly EVERYONE for hours at a time. Or you can say "smd is protecting his own personal interests" and carry on arguing the equivalent of "ANYBODY can build a modern router using a sufficient amount of ROM" which simply underlines the point that dynamic global routing is an expensive luxury that many people have gotten used to. | The common good is | promoted by allowing these folks to multihome, which would be effectively | prohibited if all networks implimented verio-style filter policies. Think of it as a catalyst for more experimentation with alternative ways of multihoming without the use of BGP. There are several which exist now, and several which are being discussed in multi6 which could be made to exist now without universal software changes. Some brainstorming could result in several other approaches, more or less generalized, but what's the point when the normal cheap-seeming thing to do is to announce CIDR holes to the world? | The number of folks who multihome is large and growing. We should support | this by promoting relatively open filtering policies and allowing /24s to be | truly, globally routable. I think we should encourage people to introduce individual /32s into the network and flap them around a bit, to force some issues which have been avoided becauase first Sprint and then Verio have been willing to take a bunch of negative PR in the act of self-protection (which has the side-effect of protecting alot of people who generate the negative PR, and everyone else). Sean.
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