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RE: FIBER CUT: Dallas to West Coast

  • From: Greg Pendergrass
  • Date: Thu Aug 30 15:17:01 2001

You always have to specify to the carrier that you want diversity. For
longhaul, sometimes even big name providers will subcontract to another
provider. For instance, you may get 1 OC-3 from MCI and another from Sprint,
but both might be going through the same Qwest OC-192 from Denver to San
Jose. I've seen it happen and it's always ugly for the buyer when someone
backhoes it. You have to specify and sometimes pay more to be certain of
your diversity.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FIBER CUT: Dallas to West Coast

Think about your last statement. If someone is homed to 2 different
providers, and 1 circuit goes down, the other should keep them up.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Greenwell" <[email protected]>
To: "Sean Donelan" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: FIBER CUT: Dallas to West Coast

> On 29 Aug 2001, Sean Donelan wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 29 August 2001, Patrick Greenwell wrote:
> > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Brian Whalen wrote:
> > > > Routing around the problem, what a concept.  More backup for the
2xt1 shop
> > > > to contimue doing it..
> > >
> > > I'm still awaiting the list of providers that never have a circuit go
> > > down. :-)
> >
> > Every carrier has had a circuit go down.
> On that we agree.
> > The difference is the carrier's response, in particular how well they
> > keep their customers informed.
> That is certainly *a* point of differentiation, however if the goal of
> these "basement dual-homers" is to not suffer downtime due to the
> outage of a single provider(much like the organizations that "matter"),
> all the responsiveness in the world from a provider whose circuit to
> one of the "basement dual-homers" which has failed isn't going to prevent
> them from being down, is it?