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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: Stealth Blocking
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Mitch Halmu wrote: > The collateral damage in blocking 100,000 hosts is simply unacceptable. > Especially because there are only a few hundred die-hard professional > spammers that need to be rooted out, and the problem diminishes, or at > least becomes manageable in another way. As an ISP, I have yet to see > a list of black sheep compiled consisting of individuals, spam companies, > or credit cards used to defraud that should not be subscribed. Banks > share such information, why can't ISPs? Assuming that 25% of the IP space is assigned, and 1% of IP space assigned is a mail server, that is still blocking only 1% of mail servers. I know more then 10 million mail servers exist. Along those lines, let me get this straight. You support someone compiling a list of spammers that you won't sell to, but you oppose someone compiling a list of people that I choose not to accept mail from. That is quite interesting, and somewhat hypocritical. > No matter how noble the cause, the methods are wrong. In all the debate, > it was perhaps lost that no viable technological solution to roaming, > meaning one that is happily accepted by the end user, exists yet. And > please don't mention SMTP Auth, it's not perfected yet. We tell users that if they roam they need to use the mail server of the place they are roaming to. As a matter of fact, we are in the process of setting up a set of rules to divert all port 25 bound traffic on our dialups to local mail servers. If everyone diverted all local traffic to a local mail server, the problem of open relays would go away. Jason -- Jason Slagle - CCNP - CCDP Network Administrator - Toledo Internet Access - Toledo Ohio - [email protected] - [email protected] - WHOIS JS10172 /"\ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign . If dreams are like movies then memories X - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . are films about ghosts.. / \ - NO Word docs in e-mail . - Adam Duritz - Counting Crows
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