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RE: ARIN whois

  • From: Roeland M.J. Meyer
  • Date: Tue Nov 23 10:13:07 1999

Yet another example of narrow-mindedness. All of those TLDs exist, unless
you like denying reality. Just because *you* can't get to them doesn't mean
that others can't. This is the very reason that smart-relay exists, as a
feature in sendmail.

WEB is operated by IO Design
FTN is FidoNet Technology Network aka FidoNet, SurvNet, EggNet, etc.
VPN is operated by MHSC.NET
PER is operated by Iperdome.

While we're at it, there is BOX, which is operated by DSO.NET

I'll even let you use NS2.MHSC.NET to get to them, for free.

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BTW, who died and left you God of Business plans?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of
> William Allen Simpson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 6:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ARIN whois
> I have not idea what all this drivel has to do with ARIN
> whois, but there
> is not such thing as "WEB, FTN, VPN, or PER TLDs."
> And we have not yet heard of a "valid business reason".
> Proof by assertion
> is not sufficient.
> "Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote:
> >
> > A point that Dean makes here is pretty valid. Last year
> MHSC tried to run a
> > third-party secure email service, using sendmail. The only
> way to do that is
> > to allow relaying. The nimrods, that are about closing down
> all mail relays,
> > absolutely ignore valid business uses for the relays. They
> don't understand
> > that someone might want to use a different SMTP server,
> than the one their
> > ISP uses, in order to send to someone in the WEB, FTN, VPN,
> or PER TLDs.
> > That sort of gateway MUST allow relays in order to function.
> >
> [email protected]
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