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RE: ARIN whois

  • From: Alex P. Rudnev
  • Date: Tue Nov 23 12:49:57 1999

If you protect yourself from open relays too hard, you really protect yourself
from the usefull mail. It's reality.

The best way to stop the SPAM is to turn your computer off. There is many
reasons why someone hold open relay; while this relay don't send you spam, it's
not your business... many providers simpli filter open relay detectors out (such
as ODBS), moreover, an attempt to use this _crazy_ (active) lists results in the
loss e-mail and can't be used by the serious companies.

> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 6:34 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: ARIN whois
> >
> >
> >
> > I have not idea what all this drivel has to do with ARIN
> > whois, but there
> > is not such thing as "WEB, FTN, VPN, or PER TLDs."
> >
> > And we have not yet heard of a "valid business reason".
> > Proof by assertion
> > is not sufficient.
> >
> > "Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote:
> > >
> > > A point that Dean makes here is pretty valid. Last year
> > MHSC tried to run a
> > > third-party secure email service, using sendmail. The only
> > way to do that is
> > > to allow relaying. The nimrods, that are about closing down
> > all mail relays,
> > > absolutely ignore valid business uses for the relays. They
> > don't understand
> > > that someone might want to use a different SMTP server,
> > than the one their
> > > ISP uses, in order to send to someone in the WEB, FTN, VPN,
> > or PER TLDs.
> > > That sort of gateway MUST allow relays in order to function.
> > >
> >
> > [email protected]
> >     Key fingerprint =  17 40 5E 67 15 6F 31 26  DD 0D B9 9B
> > 6A 15 2C 32
> >
> 
> 
> 

Aleksei Roudnev,
(+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/