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>X-Sender: [email protected] >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 >Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:58:36 -0800 >Reply-To: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <[email protected]> >Sender: Owner-Domain-Policy <[email protected]> >From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <[email protected]> >Subject: Report: Whois database for sale >X-To: "Gomes, Chuck" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] > >I just called this guy at > >>Registrant: >>Site Promotion, LLC (TARGETEDLISTS2-DOM) >> 3000 Millsfield >> Dyersburg, TN 38024 >> US >> >> Domain Name: TARGETEDLISTS.COM >> >> Administrative Contact: >> Promotion, Site (SP7502) [email protected] >> 901-286-6157 >> > >A *real* person answers the phone. I had a very good discussion with him >and I mentioned that this call was part of the MHSC process leading to >submitting his site to the RBL. He confirmed the web-site and its stated >intention. I also pointed out that making whois contact information >available to spammers was a lot like "tugging on Superman's cape", not a >good idea as it would gain the extreme ire of every ISP on the planet, not >to mention every other domain-name holder. I also politely reminded him >that the whois information is for internet-related business ONLY and NOT to >be used for advertising. > >In turn, he informed me that, as of this morning, he has decided to stop >this activity. It remains to be seen if he will do so. Chuck, I strongly >suggest that NSI follow this up with their own phone contact procedures. > >It is amusing that he, at first, tried to say that he didn't send the SPAM, >but when I started to read excerpts from the text of his web-site he >abandoned that argument line. > >At 11:28 AM 12/13/98 , Gomes, Chuck wrote: >>Chuck, >> >>To me, this indicates a serious problem at NSI. Y'all *had* to know that >some scum-bag was eventually going to do this. openly. I maintain that is >has been happening surreptitiously for some time, as this isn't the first >time someone has spammed my contact info addresses. >> >>What it disappointing is that NSI doesn't already have a "canned" response >ready to go. It was definitely a forsee-able event. Is it maybe that you >are aware of the probable response and don't like it yourself? > >> >>At 05:42 AM 12/13/98 , Gomes, Chuck wrote: >>>To date we have tried very hard to avoid becoming content managers of the >>>Internet because we have never really been given any authorization to do so. >>>Also, how could it be done fairly and equitably? >>> >>>Because of the concern for this issue though, we are discussing how this >>>might be done if in fact it can be done fairly and efficiently. >>> >>>Chuck >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Benjamin Azevedo [SMTP:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 1998 8:09 AM >>>> To: DOMAIN-POLICY >>>> Subject: Whois database for sale >>>> >>>> To all and specially Chuck, >>>> >>>> Spam received today offering access to domain owners email addresses. >>>> With a registered domain to receive orders: http://www.targetedlists.com >>>> >>>> As long as they start selling the list widely, we should expect even >>>> more spam against domain contacts. >>>> >>>> Isn't this offering a reason to immediately suspend/cancel this domain? >>>> And maybe other associated domains too, as "targetedlists.com" has been >>>> just >>>> registered and possibly is disposable anyway. >>>> >>>> Benjamin Azevedo >>>> >>>> >>>> 1)Spam received >>>> Re: Network Solutions Lists >>>> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 08:32:26 GMT >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> According to our records, you have at least >>>> one domain registered with Network Solutions, >>>> aka The Internic. >>>> http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/ >>>> >>>> Please do not be offended by this email. >>>> This is not a mass spam mailing. 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This software is fully functional, NOT a >>>> demo >>>> ($200 value) FREE! >>>> >>>> 3)Whois information about the domain offering the list >>>> Registrant: Site Promotion, LLC (TARGETEDLISTS2-DOM) >>>> 3000 Millsfield >>>> Dyersburg, TN 38024 >>>> US >>>> >>>> Domain Name: TARGETEDLISTS.COM >>>> >>>> Administrative Contact: >>>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) [email protected] >>>> 901-286-6157 >>>> Technical Contact, Zone Contact: >>>> VDirect Domain Services (VD143-ORG) [email protected] >>>> 716-262-2351 >> >>> Fax- 716-262-3766 >>>> Billing Contact: >>>> Promotion, Site (SP7502) [email protected] >>>> 901-286-6157 >>>> >>>> Record last updated on 02-Dec-98. >>>> Record created on 02-Dec-98. >>>> Database last updated on 13-Dec-98 02:53:46 EST. >>>> >>>> Domain servers in listed order: >>>> >>>> DNS1.VDIRECT.COM 208.157.147.98 >>>> DNS2.VDIRECT.COM 208.157.147.99 >>> >>> >>>-- >>>DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <[email protected]> >>>To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" >>>For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" >>> >> > >_________________________________________________ >Morgan Hill Software Company, Inc. >Roeland M.J. Meyer, ISOC >(RM993) >President and CEO. >e-mail: <mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected] >Web-pages: <http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer>http://www.mhsc.com/~rmeyer >Web-site: <http://www.mhsc.com>http://www.mhsc.com >Colorado Springs, CO - Livermore, CA - Morgan Hill, CA >-----------------------------------------(legal notice)-------- >Note: Statements made in this message do not > necessarily reflect the position of MHSC. All > forcasts and projections are to be considered > as forward-looking and presume conditions which > may not be referenced herein. >-----------------------------------------(/legal notice)------- > > >-- >DOMAIN-POLICY administrivia should be sent to <[email protected]> >To unsubscribe send a message with only one line "SIGNOFF DOMAIN-POLICY" >For more help regarding Listserv commands send the one line "HELP" > ___________________________________________________ Roeland M.J. Meyer - e-mail: mailto:[email protected] Internet phone: hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com Personal web pages: http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer Company web-site: http://www.mhsc.com ___________________________________________________ Who is John Galt? - "Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand
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