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-----Original Message----- From: Karl Denninger <[email protected]> To: Jay R. Ashworth <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 3:54 PM Subject: Re: Government scrutiny is headed our way >> > Since they don't cooperate, the only two defenses are: >> > >> > 1. Black-hole detected amplifier networks (what we're doing here). >> >> Indeed. And what I think is the best approach. Kick 'em in the >> nads^Wnets. > >Not really. The best approach is to nail a few of these folks with felony >indictments for the denial of service attacks, and the theft of the >amplifier network's services. That would stop this practice cold. Unfortunantly I highly doubt this will have much impact. Firstly, all of the "smurf kiddies" are using hacked shells, so when you trace it back to them they don't care, they just move to the next machine. Secondly, the most annoying and persistant smurfers (read "conflict") are too stupid to know better even if you start bumping off smurfers left and right. You're likely to scare the casual immoral network admin who smurfs his isp's competition or such, but thats about it. My strategy is to hit the smurfers where it hurts, the broadcasts. I email the broadcast network, and their uplink, and their uplink, until something gets done. If you can exaust their broadcasts quickly enough it becomes too "expensive" for them to continue.
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