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Re: Sprint v. Cogent, some clarity & facts

  • From: Patrick W. Gilmore
  • Date: Mon Nov 03 21:04:36 2008

On Nov 3, 2008, at 8:16 PM, George William Herbert wrote:
Patrick writes:
3. Standard transit contracts do not guarantee full connectivity
If you are a Cogent customer, it is very unlikely your contract will
allow you SLA or other credits for not being able to reach Sprint
unless you negotiated something special. I doubt Sprint's standard
contract is much different. Transit contract SLAs end at AS
boundaries. This is because Network A has no control over Network B
and therefore will not give credit if Network B fails. Of course, you
can still sue, threaten to terminate, etc., but the letter of the
contract almost certainly says nothing about packets going beyond your
transit provider's ASN.

I am not aware of any major content provider who still has any agreements in place that don't say anything about routing past the provider's network.

Content hosting != transit



Some weren't paying any attention when they signed up initially
and didn't get the specific provisions.  But once bitten by such,
renewals Do Not Happen without additional clauses being inserted.

I don't rule out there still being such agreements, but I think that
anyone with a clue and enough traffic to think about multihoming
has been exposed to this and should have insisted on some legal
protection about best-effort to route to rest of world.  It never
fails to impress me how many people have little clue, though...


"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."

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TTFN,
patrick