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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008, Alan Hannan wrote: > Is truth an actual defense to your assertions? Yes. Everything in this message is true, and can be proved to a certainty. --Dean > Dean Anderson wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2008, Scott Doty wrote: > > > > > >> First, the good news: so far, the NANOG conference has been very > >> valuable and content-rich, covering a lot of issues that need to be > >> discussed. For that, I am grateful. > >> > >> But now, the bad news(?): Maybe it's just me & my paranoia, but do I > >> detect an inkling of "murk spam" going on with some presentations? > >> > > > > Judging by the email after this, the 'vendor' involves Rodney Joffe and > > probably UltraDNS. > > > > My opinion: Yes, you are being 'murk spammed' > > > > Joffe and company represent what Professor Dan Bernstein (DJBDNS) calls > > the 'Bind Company'. I think a better term is the 'BIND Cartel', since it > > is a collection of companies and individuals. > > > > Joffe, Vixie, John Levine et al own or direct Whitehat.com, a spammer. > > Remember Sanford Wallace? Wallace sent spam and offered anti-spam > > services; that was a non-starter for many. Vixie, Joffe, Levine et al > > just stole Wallace's business plan and false-teamed themselves as > > anti-spammers. What they were really doing was sending spam, and using > > the MAPS blacklist to detect and interfere with their competitors, and > > using the credentials with the anti-spam commun and inside information > > to avoid spam-traps. See http://www.iadl.org/maps/maps-story.html > > > > Joffe/Centergate/Bill Manning was the founder of UltraDNS. Manning is > > also connected to Vixie through PAIX, and to ISC employee Susan Woolf > > through ISI. > > > > Vixie, Conrad, Manning, Woodcock, Curran, Plzak, Ed Lewis, etc all > > worked together at ARIN, and have had 22 ARIN employees attend NANOG, > > including the ARIN executive secretary. ARIN is giving NANOG $50,000 > > checks, even though the Board members have undisclosed conflicts of > > interest. ARIN resource analysts have (and probably are now) attending > > NANOG. The resource analysts are the guys who make allocation decisions, > > so getting chummy with NANOG people is a conflict of interest in the > > making. So far, I've discovered two cases where ARIN has made > > allocations in 2 hours. > > > > Have they done this before? The answer is yes. The previous scam was > > AXFR-clarify draft. The draft was presented by the BIND Cartel as not > > changing the DNS protocol, but in fact did change the protocol. When Dr. > > Bernstein discovered this, and reported it, Bernstein's email was > > disrupted and censored. > > > > There are other scams that I'm writing up, but this gives you some > > inkling of what's going on now and what's gone on before. > > > > --Dean > > > > > > > > > -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000
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