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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: the Intercage mess
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 19:28 -0700, Paul Ferguson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Randy Bush <[email protected]> wrote: > > > John Bambenek wrote: > >> When there is no law to speak of all that is left is tribal justice. > > > > this way lies lynch mobs > > > > shall we at least apply a vernier of civilization? > > > > I think that _more_than_reasonable_ background research, historical record, > etc. have met the qualifications of "civilized vernier". The outcry was, > and is not, arbitrary. No, but forcing them offline now that they are taking a new approach to handling abuse is ridiculous. Intercage are reaching out to the anti-abuse community and yet some people on NANOG keep interfering with the cleanup process. How do you expect them to clean up their network and return to normal operations (with considerably less abuse) if it keeps being disconnected? The shit isn't even there anymore. These kids have moved it elsewhere. Intercage have learned their lesson, just leave them alone and let the people who have *real* problems (e.g. me, Andrew Kirch of AHBL, Spamhaus, Gadi, etc.) with Intercage deal with this. If anyone has any issue with Atrivo/Intercage that still needs rectification: please contact me or Andrew Kirch offlist and we will bring it to their attention. We have contact with these people, and they are listening and taking action to clean up their network. If not, then please stop with this thread. It's not helpful, and it's certaintly counter-productive. William
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