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North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical RE: YAY! Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer
Very well said. James -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: YAY! Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer > It is clear to me -- at least -- that this entire criminal > operation is being operated out of Eastern Europe, and their > foothold in the U.S. is the major issue here. If you believe that this is a criminal operation then you should keep this discussion OFF THE LIST and discourage anyone from taking any action against the bad guys that might disrupt evidence gathering. If this is a criminal matter, then it is best to keep quiet, collect good evidence, and go to court. Better to get a court injunction ordering them to stop sending malware, and then collect evidence showing that they violated the injunction. To do this, they need to have functioning upstream connections to your network. NANOG is not the place to discuss these things. None of this is network operational. The whole discussion amounts to a shouting match between vigilantes and their victims. Some of those victims might also be bad guys, but a shouting match on NANOG does not prove this one way or the other. --Michael Dillon
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