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RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior

  • From: Jon Lewis
  • Date: Thu Aug 28 13:35:57 2008

Do you utilize the IRR, have an as-set, and put all customer AS/CIDR's into the IRR? I've honestly never heard from LVL3 about our advertisements. Other providers have varied from just needing a web form, email, phone call, or those combined with faxed LOAs. The latter gets very annoying...but maybe it is the way it should be.

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Boyd, Benjamin R wrote:

We've encountered the same diligence with LVL3, especially after
acquisitions where records haven't been updated yet.  Although a little
annoying it's quite refreshing.


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Spaeth [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:41 AM
To: Jon Lewis; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior

Jon Lewis wrote:
At 11:32 PM 27-08-08 -0500, John Lee wrote:

They didn't have control of any routers other than their own.  What
they had to find is a single clueless upstream ISP that would allow
them to announce prefixes that didn't belong to them.

Clueless or big and inattentive? AFAIK, Level3 will accept anything from me...as long as I put it in one of the IRRs the day
before I plan
to announce it.

Working for a company that has been steadily growing through acquisition, we have actually run into this problem a couple times before. I'm not sure if we hit the lottery, but our upstream providers (including LVL3) have definitely intervened when we've moved netblocks from a company that doesn't match our name into our facilities to be advertised under our ASNs. I'm not sure how diligent or widespread the validation checks are, but at least on occasion they do occur.

-Eric




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