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Re: maybe a dumb idea on how to fix the dns problems i don't know....

  • From: Joe Abley
  • Date: Sun Aug 10 12:51:39 2008


On 10 Aug 2008, at 11:56, Paul Vixie wrote:


(here we are discussing dns protocol details on [email protected] again. must be sunday.)

(Or alternatively we could just be discussing DNS operations, something that is entirely on-topic for this list, and conceivably of interest to the many hundreds of people who are subscribed here but not to other dns-specific lists. That was certainly my intent, even if it wasn't yours.)


From: Joe Abley <[email protected]>

It may be worth clarifying that "not considering TCP mandatory" above is
an implementation/operational choice, and not something that seems to be
clearly endorsed by RFC 1035, such as it is.


There are a lot of people who insist that TCP transport is used for
nothing other than zone transfers in the DNS, and they do so not out of
concern over potential TCP state explosion on their servers but instead
because "that's what the last guy told me". That kind of reasoning
doesn't need a bigger posse.


Joe

4.2. Transport
...

actually, it does (need a bigger posse).

Rhetoric aside, no it doesn't.


Choosing not to implement (or permit, as an operational decision) TCP because of concerns about state is what you go on to talk about; what you were actually replying to was the wholesale denial of 53/tcp out of simple ignorance, which I would be surprised to hear you endorse, even if it happens to coincide on this instance with the results of your analysis.


Joe