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Re: Latest instalment of the "hijacked /16s" story

  • From: Jared Mauch
  • Date: Wed Jun 18 08:25:50 2008


On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Joe Provo wrote:


On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:59:21PM -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
[snip]
"See no evil, hear no evil, fear no evil"

The (human) operators who cared have been pushed out by the (coprorate) operators who would rather disavow responsibility, turn up quickly, and book the revenue instead of vetting any customer claims for basis in fact or reason. Customer filtering -even when black hats drive an AS- is Not Hard if the backbones (nets) displayed actual backbone (spine).

I would argue the same for any/all security issues. If people would just shut off $VALUE, we'd have a lot fewer problems on the network. I will concede the problem is making it scale and viable for some parties. The ones that don't make the inherent security of the global network a priority are dragging the average down.


- jared

VALUE = ( infected host ip/customer, route leaker/hijacker, nonfiltering customer, ... )