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Re: rack power question
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: > > Would someone pay extra for > 7KW in a rack? What would be the maximum you > > could ever see yourself needing in order to power all 42U ? > > As you recognize, its not an engineering question; its an economic > question. Notice how Google's space/power philosphy changed between > leveraging other people's space/power, and now that they own their own > space/power. > > Existing equipment could exceed 20kW in a rack, and some folks are > planning for equipment exceeding 30kW in a rack. > > But things get more interesting when you look at the total economics > of a data center. 8kW/rack is the new "average," but that includes > a lot of assumptions. If someone else is paying, I want it and more. > If I'm paying for it, I discover I can get by with less. That may not be the correct way to look at it. There's a very reasonable argument to be made that the artificial economic models used by colocation providers has created this monster to begin with. The primary motivation for many customers to put more stuff in a single rack is that the cost for a rack subsidizes at least a portion of the power and cooling costs. A single rack with two 20A circuits typically costs less than two racks with a 20A circuit each. To some extent, this makes sense. However, it often costs *much* less for the single rack with two 20A circuits. Charging substantially less for rack space, even offset by higher costs for power, would encourage a lot of colo customers to "spread the load" around and not feel as obligated to maximize the use of space. That would in turn reduce the tendency for there to be excessive numbers of hot spots. The economic question of how to build your pricing model ultimately becomes an engineering question, because it becomes progressively more difficult to provide power and cooling as density increases. Or, to quote you, in an entirely different context: > If I'm paying for it, I discover I can get by with less. The problem is that this is currently true for values of "it" where "it" equals "racks." ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.