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On Feb 19, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: You'd probably need to disband the following entities without successor arrangements in order to accomplish this: 1. The RIRs 2. IANA/ICANN 3. USDoC The third is extremely unlikely. The second is unlikely. The first is very unlikely. At a certain point, the courts will apply the reasonable and prudent test to the question and likely determine that someone who received an assignment from SRI-NIC or NSI-NIC had a reasonable expectation to be able to use that address space in perpetuity and that whatever registry had reasonable duty not to duplicate said assignment. Very likely any ISP routing the assignment to the new holder would be part of the lawsuit and would get enjoined from doing so. I think it is unlikely that the current registries will become less relevant that alternative registries.Thus, your "Barring a prior agreement" condition is not met.For that matter, aside from consensus and inertia, what would stop the operator community as a whole from setting up shop with a "forked" registry that had no contractual agreements with anybody prior?Nothing. However, do you really think that is viable? 1. Consensus would be very hard to achieve. The only technical lockin I can spot is reverse dns.That's substantial, but, having multiple registries competing to assign the same addresses in an uncoordinated manner is not likely to be a useful or successful model in any case. How do you see this working? Who would determine which addresses went to which islands for2. Identifying a single entity to manage such a "forked" registry vs. a bunch assignment/allocation? You still haven't explained who would have the authority to divide up the swamp between the3. Much breakage and instability would likely result. competing organizations, all of whom would likely claim full control of the entire swamp, but, certainly there would be overlapping conflicts. Promising supply is an act of fiction.4. Do you have any illusion that this would do anything other than beg If iana free pool runs out and registries cant offer any new ones, whos to say goverments wont start stepping in and "eminent domain"ing address space and setting up registry shop themselves?Could be interesting, indeed. Consensus is still required. Otherwise its just a national private network, with or without nat.Yep. I think the takeaway is that the registries better remain relevant to ipv4 so long as ipv4 is relevant.I agree that is the ideal outcome. The bigger question is how best to achieve this. Owen
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