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Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

  • From: Mark Radabaugh
  • Date: Wed Jan 16 01:13:30 2008

Joe Greco wrote:
As long as you fairly disclose to your end-users what limitations and restrictions exist on your network, I don't see the problem.

You've set out a qualification that generally doesn't exist. For example,
this discussion included someone from a WISP, Amplex, I believe, that listed certain conditions of use on their web site, and yet it seems like
they're un{willing,able} (not assigning blame/fault/etc here) to deliver
that level of service, and using their inability as a way to justify
possibly rate shaping P2P traffic above and beyond what they indicate on their own documents.
Actually you misrepresent what I said versus what you said. It's getting a little old.


I responded to the original question by Deepak Jain over why anyone cared about P2P traffic rather then just using a hard limit with the reasons why a Wireless ISP would want to shape P2P traffic.


You then took it upon yourself to post sections of our website to Nanog and claim that your service was much superior because you happen to run Metro Ethernet.


Our website pretty clearly spells out our practices and they are MUCH more transparent than any other provider I know of. Can we do EXACTLY what we say on our website if EVERY client wants to run P2P at the full upload rate? No - but we can do it for the ones who care at this point. At the moment the only people who seem to care about this are holier than thou network engineers and content providers looking for ways to avoid their own distribution costs. Neither one of them is paying me a dime.


Mark