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RE: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

  • From: Frank Bulk
  • Date: Mon Jan 14 14:58:28 2008

We're delivering full IP connectivity, it's the school that's deciding to
rate-limit based on application type.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Mikael Abrahamsson
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 1:28 PM
To: nanog list
Subject: RE: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...


On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Frank Bulk wrote:

> Interesting, because we have a whole college attached of 10/100/1000
users,
> and they still have a 3:1 ratio of downloading to uploading.  Of course,
> that might be because the school is rate-limiting P2P traffic.  That
further
> confirms that P2P, generally illegal in content, is the source of what I
> would call disproportionate ratios.

You're not delivering "Full Internet IP connectivity", you're delivering
some degraded pseudo-Internet connectivity.

If you take away one of the major reasons for people to upload (ie P2P)
then of course they'll use less upstream bw. And what you call
disproportionate ratio is just an idea of "users should be consumers" and
"we want to make money at both ends by selling download capacity to users
and upload capacity to webhosting" instead of the Internet idea that
you're fully part of the internet as soon as you're connected to it.

--
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: [email protected]