North American Network Operators Group Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical Re: /48 for each and every endsite (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?)
On Dec 19, 2007 5:03 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > > "new" as in "We already have one, but we actually didn't really know > > what we where requesting, now we need more" > > We got our current block in 2000 (or earlier, I don't know for sure, but > 2000 at the latest). So yes, we didn't know what we were doing back then. > Then again, I'd say nobody knew back then. > I'd say it's fair to bet that quite a few folks in all regions pursued ipv6 allocations more than 3-5 years ago when the policy was essentially '/32 per provider, simply show a business plan for providing services to 200+ customers in the next N years' (without much in the way of planning or proof-of-planning). > > That is exactly what it is for. Then again, if you actually had > > *PLANNED* your address space like you are supposed to when you make a > > request you could have already calculated how much address space you > > really needed and then justify it to the $RIR. In case you have to go > > back to ask the $RIR for more you already made a mistake while doing the > > initial request... > > The world tends to change in 7 years. You seem to like bashing people for > not knowing future policy and changes 7 year ahead of time, which I think > it quite sad. in the case of allocation policy for ipv6 things have changed significantly in the last 2-3 years certainly. It's probably also important to look further in the future than the current RIR policy decision process requires. ARIN/RIPE (atleast) have a 2 year planning horizon for LIR allocations, this isn't sufficient for ipv6 which is supposed to last significantly longer and be as limited in prefix/entity as possible. Some large providers are attempting to plan 5-10 years out for address policy if possible, not everyone has that luxury, but in the end we (internet routing community) want limited prefixes/org that means planning horizons have to be adjusted up from 2yrs to <something else>. -Chris
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