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RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

  • From: Paul Ferguson
  • Date: Fri Oct 26 13:09:01 2007

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- -- "Jamie Bowden" <[email protected]> wrote:

>It would seem that the state of NY agrees with you:

The part of this discussion that really infuriates me (and Joe
Greco has hit most of the salient points) is the deceptiveness
in how ISPs "underwrite" the service their customers subscribe to.

For instance, in our data centers, we have 1Gb uplinks to our ISPs,
but guaranteed service subscription (a la CIR) to a certain rate
which we engineer (based on average traffic volume, say, 400Mb), but
burstable to full line rate -- if the bandwidth is available.

Now, we _know_ this, because it's in the contract. :-)

As a consumer, my subscription is based on language that doesn't
say "you can only have the bandwidth you're paying for when we
are congested, because we oversubscribed our network capacity."

That's the issue here.

I know full well the technical arguments of both sides of the
issues, the economic issues, and the difference between a circuit
switched network and a pcekt network, thank you. :-)


- - ferg

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