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Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > On 24-okt-2007, at 16:44, Rod Beck wrote: > >> The vast bulk of users have no idea how many bytes they consume each >> month or the bytes generated by different applications. The schemes >> being advocated in this discussion require that the end users be >> Layer 3 engineers. > > Users more or less know what a gigabyte is, because when they download > too many of them, it fills up their drive. If the limits are high > enough that only actively using high-bandwidth apps has any danger of > going over them, the people using those apps will find the time to > educate themselves. It's not that hard: an hour of video conferencing > (500 kbps) is 450 MB, downloading a gigabyte is.. 1 GB. But then that same 1GB can be sent back up to P2P clients any multiple of times. When this happens the customer no longer has any idea how much data they transferred because "well I just left it on and.....". Really, it shouldn't matter how much traffic a user generates/downloads so long as QoS makes sure that people who want real stuff get it and are not killed by the guy down the street seeding the latest Harry Potter movie. If people are worried about transit and infrastructure costs then again, implement QoS and fix the transit/infrastructure to use it. That way you can limit your spending on transit for example to a fixed amount and QoS will manage it for you. -- Leigh You owe the oracle an encrypted Peer to Peer detector.