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Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

  • From: Joe Greco
  • Date: Fri Oct 12 23:21:49 2007

> * Joe Greco:
> > Some people, for example, believe - incorrectly - that certain types of
> > e-mail spam are {legal, illegal, pick one}.  Their opinions are 
> > irrelevant.
> I don't know what case prompted Ferg to post his message to NANOG, but I
> know that there are cases where failing to act is comparable to ignoring
> the screams for help of an "alleged" rape victim during the "alleged"
> crime.  There might be some reasons not to do anything (fear of DoS,
> concerns for personal safety etc.), but I can assure you that ambiguity
> is not one of them.

Yes, but you'll find that for every instance where you could be expected
to assist someone in such a situation, there are a hundred situations where
you are not.

The existence of cases where the need to render assistance is obvious does
not mean that you must render assistance in all cases.

... JG
Joe Greco - Network Services - Milwaukee, WI -
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.