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Re: large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.

  • From: David Conrad
  • Date: Tue Aug 07 18:44:10 2007


Hi,


On Aug 7, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Donald Stahl wrote:
Can someone, anyone, please explain to me why blocking TCP 53 is considered such a security enhancement? It's a token gesture and does nothing to really help improve security. It does, however, cause problems.

It has been argued that it is a bit harder to download/bootstrap shell code/arbitrary root kit through the latest BIND vulnerability (or whatever) via a 512 UDP packet than it is through TCP.


Someone was only too happy to point out to me that he would never create a record larger than 512 bytes so why should they allow TCP queries? The answer is simple- because they are supposed to be allowed.

Yep. However, as the always amusing Dr. Bernstein points out, if you don't care about zone transfer, DNS-over-TCP is an optional part of the standard (per RFC 1123).


Before long it becomes impossible to implement new features because you can't be sure if someone else hasn't broken something intentionally.

Yep. And then they scream at you when you tickle their brokenness. It sucks.


Rgds,
-drc

P.S. Note that I think blocking TCP/53 is really stupid.