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Re: Yahoo outage summary

  • From: Randy Bush
  • Date: Mon Jul 09 12:32:19 2007 
Tony Tauber wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 02:31:10PM +0800, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> following existing BCPs with currently-deployed
>>> techniques/functionality/features would have prevented the issue
>>> described in the post.
>> knowing that level(3) is one of the most serious deployments of
>> irr-based route filters and other prudent practices, perhaps we should
>> wait for a post mortem from level(3) before jumping to conclusions?
> There's no magic bullet in updating BGP if a fundamental, verifiable
> data model is not accepted and agreed upon.

the space of routing data validation is large, we can explore it at our
leisure, and we have been for some years.  but my point was that it is
silly to indulge in conjecturbation on the cause of the recent event and
excoriate l(3), hanaro, or john curran's grandmother until we have heard
from the folk who have actual data.

randy