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Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

  • From: Warren Kumari
  • Date: Wed May 16 00:21:07 2007



On May 14, 2007, at 7:57 PM, Donald Stahl wrote:


I'm very happy about the Juniper devices I manage. They're expensive but
very reliable, and their config interface has lots of unique features.
Juniper's greatest asset over Cisco is the single software image for all their systems. In my latest purchase that didn't justify paying 4 times as much no matter how much I love the software.

Warren: For me the greatest asset is the stability... the stability and performance... The two greatest assets are stability and performance... and the fact that the commands that you can type actually do something[0]. The *three* greatest assets are stability and performance and the fact that the commands that you can type actually do something... and the ease of the CLI. The *four" greatest ... no ... Amongst their greatest assets are the stability, performance, commands that actually DO something, the CLI...... I'll come in again.


[Warren exits]

Donald: Juniper's greatest asset over Cisco is the single software image for all their systems

[JARRING CHORD]
[Warren bursts in]

Amongst their greatest assets are the stability, performance, commands that actually DO something, the ability to actually count the bits that you send[1]... and pretty colors - Oh damn!

Warren

[0] -- You haven't lived until you have spent 4 hours in the middle of the night trying to figure out why the command that you typed (and that shows up in the config) doesn't work -- only to be told "Oh, that doesn't exist in this train, you need to upgrade to <inset some new version that doesn't include the ability to actually forward packets or something else equally critical>, we just reused the same parser..."

[1] -- If you haven't run into the "oh, we can either forward packets *really* fast, or count them, but not both" answer then you haven't been doing this long enough.

P.S: I neither work for, nor hold any stock of either of the above companies.