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Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf

  • From: Gadi Evron
  • Date: Sat Feb 17 19:56:06 2007

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Petri Helenius wrote:
> >> After all these years, I'm still surprised a consortium of ISP's haven't 
> >> figured out a way to do something a-la Packet Fence for their clients where 
> >> - whenever an infected machine is detected after logging in, that machine 
> >> is thrown into say a VLAN with instructions on how to clean their machines 
> >> before they're allowed to go further and stay online.
> > This has been commercially available for quite some time so it would be only 
> > up to the providers to implement it.
> 
> Public ISPs have been testing these types of systems for over 5 years. 
> What sorts of differences can you think of that would explain why public
> ISPs have found them not very effective?
> 
> Public ISPs have been using walled gardens for a long time for user 
> registration and collecting credit card information.  So they know how to
> implement walled gardens.  But what happens when public ISPs use it for 
> infected machines?
> 

Many already do, successfully.

When I say many I actually mean I know of 6. 3 of them huge, 3 of them
relatively small.