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Re: ARIN sucks?

  • From: Owen DeLong
  • Date: Sun Sep 17 15:34:22 2006 
On Sep 17, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:


On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Also, you're incorrect on the process. You can definitely get an ASN
without IP space.
I find that fascinating. The ARIN template:
http://www.arin.net/registration/templates/asn-request.txt
states:
12. Indicate all IP address blocks currently in use in
your network.
You fill in "none" and ARIN has given you an ASN? Under what conditions?
If you have no IP space in use, what do you plan to do with an ASN? It is pretty common to get an ASN from ARIN while using PA IP space, never getting (or requesting) space from ARIN or other RIRs.
Actually, in more than one case, I have been able to fill in "none" on an initial
assignment template and still get the ASN. The ASN is a prerequisite to qualifying
under the multihoming end-user policy, so, yes, if you are starting from zero and
applying as an initial end-user, you can apply for an ASN with "none" as long as
you can demonstrate that you have contracts for service with at least two ISPs.

You can then use that ASN to apply for IP space under the multi-homed end-user
policy.

Of course, if you can show existing utilization of PA space, that becomes much
easier, because it is easier for ARIN to verify your utilization and requirements,
but, with sufficient appropriate documentation, you can apply without existing
IP space and get an ASN and an assignment.

Owen

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