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Nick, You make an incorrect assumption - that IP addresses are currently free (they are not, in either money or time) and that commoditizing them will increase their cost (there is significant evidence it will not). If I have the choice between paying $500 for a /24 of PI space or going to my upstreams, getting IP space, applying to ARIN for a /22 of PI space, eventually numbering out of the PA space - how much money have I spent? - Daniel Golding > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michael Nicks > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 2:19 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Kremen VS Arin Antitrust Lawsuit - Anyone have > feedback?] > > > The real fundamental flaw with this free-market approach to handling IP > assignments is the fact that it will further create an environment where > smaller (start-ups, small businesses) entities trying to acquire PI > space will face insurmountable challenges (eg, financial). > > While I think the majority of people these days would agree that the > free-market approach to economics is definitely the best, certain > resources are not very applicable to be traded in a free-market > environment. I myself do not like over-bureaucratic processes, and while > all of us at one time or another have complained about ARIN's > procedures, policies, and practices, the purpose they serve is a needed > one. > > Best Regards, > -Michael > > -- > Michael Nicks > Network Engineer > KanREN > e: [email protected] > o: +1-785-856-9800 x221 > m: +1-913-378-6516 > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > 3) What's wrong with treating assignments like property and setting up a > > market to buy and sell them? There's plenty of precedent for this: > > > > Mineral rights, mining claims, Oil and gas leases, radio spectrum. > > > > If a given commodity is truly scarce, nothing works as good as the free > > market in encouraging consumers to conserve and make the best use of it. > > > > > > I think you're dead-on there, but you forget who you're really trying to > > convince. It'll happen eventually but in the meantime the greybeards > > who were largely responsible for the Internet as we know it (and who by > > and large still wield significant influence if not still stewardship) > > will be dragged there kicking and screaming from their > > academic/pseudo-Marxist ideals, some of whom seem to still resent the > > commercialization of the Internet. It's also hard to see the faults in > > the system when you are insulated by your position as member of the > > politburo. > > > > The flip side of the coin of course is that if you let the free market > > reign on IP's, you may price developing countries right off the Internet > > which I don't think anyone sees as a desirable outcome. There's sure to > > be a happy middle ground that people smarter than I will figure out, and > > maybe it takes a silly lawsuit such as this to kick things off. > > > > Andrew Cruse
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